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Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:26 pm
by autorowt8
My 46 c140 with later style front bulkhead(sn is post 8800) has a crack in what I believe is appropriately referred to as the stiffener-canted bulkhead-left. I’m looking for expertise in the repair of this or a reference to what is acceptable and what isn’t. There is an AD for pre 8800 bulkheads but, not for this type.
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:35 pm
by autorowt8
A closer depiction of the schematic location.
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:38 pm
by 8342
Was the airplane ever flipped over? That would be my guess as to how it got got there.
Mine had the same crack. I know mine had been on its back at least once and maybe twice.
They had been doing the AD inspection on the crack even though it did not apply to the airplane due to serial number.
Since I was so far into rebuilding the entire airplane I went ahead and replace the whole door post.
Good luck.
Rick
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:09 pm
by 6643
8342 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:38 pm
Was the airplane ever flipped over?
I think it may have been David Lowe who said "If your plane has never been on its back, you're missing some of the paper work."
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:24 pm
by autorowt8
It’s been wind damaged and ground looped. Both of these events happened 60+ years ago. What no one can tell me is what I should do about it, if anything.
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:26 am
by 8342
The only way to fix it is to change out the whole doorpost. If you look at how it is riveted together it would take very specialized equipment to replace just that piece.
I would just inspect it every annual and see if it gets worse.
As you mentioned the AD does not apply. Not only is the Serial number not applicable, the location of the crack is not where the AD says to look.
Rick
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:34 am
by 6643
It's stop drilled, so it's been there for a while. Do the logs indicate when it ws first discovered?
It looks like the crack has propagated past the relief hole. Is that true? If so, it should be drilled again. Given that it is not static, you might want to inspect it more frequently than every annual, like before each flight.
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:38 pm
by autorowt8
The logs DON’T indicate when it was stop drilled. It was obviously done prior to paint in the late 90’s/early 2000’s. What we haven’t been able to determine is what the standards for cracks in this upper area are, or if a doubler can be added over the area concerned.
Re: Door post stiffener cracks
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:17 am
by 8342
AD 47-06-11 allows cracks in the stiffners concerned with it to be upt to 3/4 inch.
That may be a starting point for reference.
Just spit balling.
Rick