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Axle bolts

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Looking at the Cessna parts book they call out NAS144 bolts which us what is installed on my aircraft currently. I want to replace the hardware when I change to the Grove axles. Spruce lists AN4 hardware in their "kit". Does anyone know a good source for NAS144 bolts? I've seen lots of AN bolts on axles but I want the correct hardware. Thanks

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http://www.skyportservices.net/cessna.html#Hardware

Here's a few, new MS20004- numbers, John C will check in shortly I bet...

You definitely don't want to use AN4- bolts as they are of a different measure of strength.
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Make sure you know the actual diameter that you need - as above, John C will check in and I think he sells them - look for his link on one of his responses "Skyport East" and he may have them listed there.
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Thanks for the info. Mine are .250 diameter not sure on length but there are 2 shims on each side.
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https://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/i ... _intwr.pdf

This ought to help you with new MS numbers, grips, etc.....
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Would anyone have reservations about using the bolts I have? Not planning on it but just curious on opinions
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I suggest unless you already know the exact thickness of the Grove "flange", you wait to check the exact length you'll need. NAS bolts are close tolerance bolts, so pricey.
I won't touch your question but I've never heard of any wrecks due to the 4 high strength, close tolerance bolts failing - inspect for corrosion, etc.

Many, many years ago when I was at Cape Canaveral, an older NASA friend who had just learned to fly a 170, asked me to go with him on a short flight to a grass strip. I was very uneasy an on landing I could see problems and started to take the controls away from him but was reluctant so a violent ground loop evolved - wiped out the gear. Fortunately or unfortunately, for him, an axle broke so the FAA listed that as the cause of the ground loop but I knew differently. Point being, no bolt failures. 2C
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The Grove flange os the same thickness as the original but I don't know the length of the bolts and didn't want to take it down just to measure them. I'd like to put new bolts in there not worried about the price. I guess I could NDI the existing bolts or wait until I pull it apart to order. I might just wait until the annual to change them. I don't need to put them on now I just wanted to swap them out when I put the 8.50s on.
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Just checked on Groves site. They list AN bolts for use with their axles too. I wonder why they would recommend anything other than the NAS bolts? Oh well
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