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Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:09 pm
by 8141
Can anyone identify this. The top screws on. I bought a seal kit that I thought would work but it was wrong.
Also the threads are messed up on the elbow. Anyone know where I can find a new one. It's a -3 flair X -4 Oring boss (AKA SAE).
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Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:23 pm
by 4004
That's the classical original cylinder on the 120/140. Suggest before you think new _$$$$$$- get the right O ring and replace the elbow and try yours. It was originally set up with parking brake capability which has obviously been removed - note the slot in the "hat" section of the screw-in cover - that was where the arm was located that engaged the slotted stem to keep pressure on the brake for parking. System caused problems for some, so was removed to preclude accidents!

John C et al will be on and give part # for proper O ring, etc and their recommendations.

Big Edd

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:39 am
by 6643
AN6227-7 or MS28775-012. The cylinder is a very simple design and the o-ring is the only wear part. There is a little pin that cocks the o-ring at the top of the stroke to allow fluid in and out of the reservoir. The o-ring takes a set over time and doesn't seal properly.

The elbow fits to the cylinder with an AN902-4 gasket, which, if memory serves, is a rubber washer, not an o-ring, with a flat cross section.

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:00 pm
by 8141
Thanks for the info guys. Just what I needed.

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:54 pm
by 6643
Oh, yeah, the elbow is AN921-4D and the nut is AN924-4D.

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:57 pm
by sport1fort
Can anybody tell me the part number for the brake master cylinder? As well as a good aftermarket replacement.

Thanks!!!!

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:58 am
by 6643
Goodyear 95-3681, Cessna PN 0411058. I think the masters from a 150 will mount right up.

As stated above, there's not much that can go wrong with the originals.

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:46 am
by 4390
Unless it's rotten it should work with a new O ring. Very important that the fill plug has a vent hole drilled in it, about .050 works.

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:32 pm
by elliotblock
For 140As in serial number range 15200 - 15375, the IPC mentions that the filler plug is plastic (0411058-9).

Three questions:

Have these mostly been replaced by brass or aluminum 1/8 pipe thread plugs?
Should this plug also include the small vent hole in it?

Apologize to sound vague. I am going to be working on an A with brake issues and I forgot to take photos of the master cylinders on the airplane when I saw it last.

Thanks,
Elliot

Re: Help identify brake master cylinder

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:12 pm
by 6643
I can't say as to whether they have been mostly modified. I see no reason you couldn't use an aluminum one. No reason I can see to use brass instead.

Yes, they must be vented. If the aluminum plug has a drilling for safety wire, just drill up from the base of the plug to intercept the cross drilling.

MS20913-1D