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WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:48 am
by juliogdiana
Hello guys,
I got my hands on a nice genuine aluminum set of 120/140 pants for my 1946 C120, however it didnt have the mounting plates.
I put a add on Facebook looking for a mounting plates and I bought two sets from a guys in States, however I dont think they are the right ones, they are flat and the holes doesnt match my pants, I tried to contact the member who does the carbon fiber mounting plates but his e-mail isnt working.
I can see that the carbon fiber ones are not flat and have a bit of shape on them, I think it is the one I need, could you guys could give any advice about if I can a buy a set of mounting plates or just change the holes on my existing flat plates.
Thanks in advance.
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:37 am
by 6643
The plates for the original pants are not flat. Also, they are as rare as hen's teeth... I've often thought of making a set of dies to press them, but I think they would need to be tempered after.
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:44 pm
by juliogdiana
I don’t think need to be tempered, do you think if I change the holes on flat plate I can make it to work?
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:59 pm
by 6643
I'm not sure how to answer that. I will say this: the plane of the axle mounting surface and the plane of the inner face of the wheel pant are not the same. There is some offset, and I believe they are not parallel.
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:57 pm
by 4004
You have the major key items- do an eyeball mock-up and if looks feasible, using what you already have, use clay ( silly putty) with a release agent and form a basic shim that's used to make a final shim. The final shim could be affixed to the pant providing the required contour adjustment. Just an out-of-the-box thought. 2C
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:21 am
by 6643
juliogdiana wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:44 pm
I don’t think need to be tempered,
I looked at one a while back. It was pretty beat up, but I decided that to press one I'd need to use -O (soft) aluminum. I think it would have to be at least T3 to stand up.
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:02 am
by a64pilot
I think O material would hold up, if it were thick enough, I don’t think there is much stress.
O material is almost butter soft, it’s so soft it will smear onto a drill bit like melted plastic when you drill it.
I have the original pants, and I thought the plates were flat, but it’s been 12 years or so since Installed them so not sure, there isn’t much of a bend is there?
Depending on the press and bend radius you can form T3
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:13 pm
by 6643
Are they off the plane? Can you get some pics of the plates?
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:19 pm
by a64pilot
6643 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:13 pm
Are they off the plane? Can you get some pics of the plates?
No, I put them on 12 years ago and haven’t removed them since. I believe they don’t remove easily?
Re: WANTED - Pants Mounting Plates
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:07 pm
by 6643
Depends on how much work you thing R&Ring the axles is, I guess!