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8233 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:38 pm
Sounds like I can't go wrong either way. On these newer starters, I've also read that they can crank too fast and subsequently cause kickback for various reasons. Is that an issue found often with the smaller engines and consistent between these 2 brands?
I'm leaning a bit towards B&C mostly because I live in Kansas and want to support a company in my state.
Thanks for all the replies and insight. I sure wish we could get the old posts restored. I joined the association around the same time it was all lost so I feel like there is so much great info I'm not able to tap into but certainly appreciate those of you who take the time to reply to questions that probably got asked dozens of times on here before.
Yes, they do turn the engine over at a higher RPM than stock starters.....
However...........I don't think this is an issue.
"Kickback" is usually associated with two things.
1. Timing too advanced
2. Weak battery and slow cranking speed.
I don't see why fast cranking would lead to kickbacks, in fact, I'd think the opposite would be true. Regardless, if your impulse couplings are working correctly, the mags won't fire until nearly TDC anyhow.
(I hate it when there's one more post on the next page that I don't see before I respond... )
being no one replied to my post awhile ago on starters & alternators, and this post is starters, which one of the sky-tec and b&c does one get for a c-85 with the starter pinion cut, and never had a starter. the key one or pull cable one, plus mine is a non-electric c120
620 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:15 am
being no one replied to my post awhile ago on starters & alternators, and this post is starters, which one of the sky-tec and b&c does one get for a c-85 with the starter pinion cut, and never had a starter. the key one or pull cable one, plus mine is a non-electric c120
Ken,
I'm sorry we missed your post.
If you have the starter pinon shaft cut off, the B&C is a great starter.
I don't have direct knowledge of the Sky Tech so I don't know if it can be used with the shaft in place or not? Hopefully one of our members can chime in.
Is this what you're looking for?
Regarding alternators, I installed the 'Plane Power' Alternator 1.5 years ago and it's been Fantastic. About as complex of an install as any other alternator would be as well. Probably no better or worse.
+1 for Plane Power alternator. I had one put in last year and working great so far. On the starters, my understanding is both Sky-Tec and B&C require the pinion shaft to be cut.
David Freeland - CFII
1972 Bellanca Super Viking and 1946 Cessna 120
620 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:15 am
being no one replied to my post awhile ago on starters & alternators, and this post is starters, which one of the sky-tec and b&c does one get for a c-85 with the starter pinion cut, and never had a starter. the key one or pull cable one, plus mine is a non-electric c120
Ken, it'll be the "ST2" for a Sky-Tec...and, yes, it does require the starter pinion being cut off, just like I understand the B & C does for this installation. The B & C model # is BC320 & you'd need to call & discuss the installation "kit" needed for installing on a non-electric 120. As discussed already, both starters are apparently very good & dependable products for our little Continentals. Sky-Tec advertises their "kick-back protection" & I'm confident that B & C has a similar feature -- hopefully never needed, but good to know it's there. Mac
2066 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:00 pmSky-Tec advertises their "kick-back protection" & I'm confident that B & C has a similar feature --
Interesting. My recollection was that the B&C was more "kick back resistant", and that was in their favor. Maybe Skytec made a modification and is playing one-upmanship...
Skytec’s had a sheer pin in their early starters. The have modified them to be kick back resistant so you don’t have to replace the pin. More like B&C now..
Randy Thompson A&P IA Pilot
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