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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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8170 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:22 am I may have a window latch I would part with a lot cheaper than $210. I am looking into making my own for my patroller doors of a different design. I will remove it and take a picture if you are interested.
Thanks for the offer. I countered those on eBay and got 2 for $250. I didn't think that was too bad of a deal.

Thanks!
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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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6643 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:07 am All 120's and most (up to sn 14365) 140s came without the passenger side window latch. It was available as an option, and is a minor modification.

Mine is 11919 so that now makes sense that I couldn't find any evidence of a previous bracket installed

There is (was) a "D" window conversion kit available for the 120. It's a minor modification.

Do you know who has the kit? I couldn't find any kind of procedure in the library unless I am just not looking in the right place.

Airpath compasses are available new from the usual suspects. I'd mount it on the glare shield. In the panel is problematic.

Attached is a pic of the beast that's installed overhead
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Cessna lists (listed) the "Blind Flight Equipment" for both the 120 and 140, so you'd be hard pressed to convince me that the 120 cannot be outfitted for IFR. (Not that I'd recommend it... Can you say "pitot heat"?)

Yeah, it's an interesting curiosity for me but I wouldn't be interested in any serious IFR. It would be handy to be able to punch through a layer or practice approaches for currency, etc. I've got a Super Viking for more serious IFR situations.

There are several ways to convert to an alternator. Barnstormer's aviation (our own Fred Lagno) has an stc to install the alternator from a Cessna 150. Plane power have a light weight alternator (ER14-50) and also carry the older Jasco conversions. I think the Luscombe foundation or Classic Aero has an STC for B&C alternator. I was able to get a field approval using the 150 alternator and wiring diagram, but that was "back then"... (My PMI has long since retired.) I'd go for the 150 alternator if you can get one, or the Plane power. The B&C scares me as the outer housing spins...

My mechanic prefers the Plane Power option although my C90 isn't specifically listed on their website. I'm assuming it should be an easy field approval if the C90 is not officially on the STC?

If you want help posting pictures, send me a PM.

Thanks. Now that I know the file size limit, I'll be able to get pics up just fine

Did I miss anything?

Oh, look in the member's library. I think you can download the parts catalog there. Many of your answers are in there.

Will do. I have been looking but still have to keep mining information out of the library.
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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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8233 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 11:08 amDo you know who has the kit? I couldn't find any kind of procedure in the library unless I am just not looking in the right place.
The kit is listed in the parts catalog, page 132. Today you're probably going to have to copy one or buy used parts.
My mechanic prefers the Plane Power option although my C90 isn't specifically listed on their website. I'm assuming it should be an easy field approval if the C90 is not officially on the STC?
Alternators are airframe components. Look here.
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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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8170 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:22 am I may have a window latch I would part with a lot cheaper than $210. I am looking into making my own for my patroller doors of a different design. I will remove it and take a picture if you are interested.
I would be interested if David no longer needs one. :D
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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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6643 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 1:58 pm
8233 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 11:08 amDo you know who has the kit? I couldn't find any kind of procedure in the library unless I am just not looking in the right place.
The kit is listed in the parts catalog, page 132. Today you're probably going to have to copy one or buy used parts.

Thanks. I believe I actually have a parts catalog that came with the plane. It had all of the books back to 1946. A LOT of paper but a good problem to have. :D
My mechanic prefers the Plane Power option although my C90 isn't specifically listed on their website. I'm assuming it should be an easy field approval if the C90 is not officially on the STC?
Alternators are airframe components. Look here.
Thanks, I got a similar response from Victor. Appreciate the confirmation though!
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Re: New 120 and a lot of questions

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If you're still interested in parting with that window latch, we'd love to put our hand up as interested in it!

We have a C140 and it gets really hot here in Florida without being able to open the passenger window...
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