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170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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While searching for my next C140 I ran across one that looks like it has a C170 vertical stabilizer on the tail. Has anyone else seen this? Was there a run from the factory like this or is this a one off?
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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Here's a picture
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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I think you will find that's just a dorsal addition to the OEM fin that gives the appearance of the later 170. There was/is an STC to add just the dorsal portion - I have a copy of STC but never executed. IIRC the STC passed to the son in AK and one had to supply one's own dorsal which I believe allowed some latitude with the exact size/ presentation - the photo size looks larger than expected and the sheet metal may have been obtained from a salvaged 170.
There is/was a 120 on our field with one. IIRC the addition to seaplanes enhanced the empennage authority. In addition, looks "sexier" with the "baby 170/180" look and "turned heads".
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There's a 140 for sale on Barnstromers right now with this modification.

https://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail. ... atid=22200
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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Thinking somewhere I read that was a seaplane mod. too?
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Jeff you are correct - that's what I was alluding to in the penultimate sentence in my post above.

Over the years one would hear and observe that the FAA Alaska folks were a lot more prone to approve mods
viz-a-viz the lower 48.

David, that photo on Barnstormers is the same as the initial post - "small world".
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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Thanks for the input guys. I thought I'd seen a dorsal fin STC somewhere but wasn't sure. I defiantly have not come across a 140 like the one in Barnstormers. I'm actually talking to the guy tonight as I'm on the hunt for a new 140.
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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4004 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:05 pm David, that photo on Barnstormers is the same as the initial post - "small world".
That's awesome. Totally missed that in my haste this morning to post the link. :D
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Dave Wiley (Wiley's Seaplane Base) had an STC. He was based in Oregon, but has passed on (RIP). Don't know what ever became of it.
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Re: 170 vertical stabilizer on a 140

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John, that's the one I have, as I recall, I dealt with his son who sold it to me. If anyone has an interest, I can dig it up from the file (pile) :)
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