Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Ask Questions and Offer Advice Related to the Cessna 120 & 140 Type
Forum rules
You must be a member of the Cessna 120-140 Association in order to post new topics, reply to existing topics, or search for information on this forum. Use the "Join" link in the red menu bar.
8424
Posts: 217
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:43 am
Name: Steve A H
Location: OK74
Aircraft Type: 1950 C140A
Occupation-Interests: Retired
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by 8424 »

Here's another one that covers spring tension as part of a 3200 "inspection". It is a good tutorial on the care and maintenance of the 3200. This plane has the compression springs also.

The tension adjustment starts around the 5 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwb-QCt3NAY

Most of you probably have seen these 2 videos, but thought I would post them for the rest of us.

Steve A H
User avatar
6643
Posts: 2444
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: John C
Location: KLCI, NH
Aircraft Type: 1946 C140/C90
Occupation-Interests: A&P, semi-retired
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by 6643 »

Do not use compression springs! You will end up with a cracked rudder bell crank.
8424
Posts: 217
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:43 am
Name: Steve A H
Location: OK74
Aircraft Type: 1950 C140A
Occupation-Interests: Retired
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by 8424 »

John,

Thanks for reinforcing the non use of the compression spring. I am not advocating the use of them, just pointing out the spring used in the videos. I assume the technique will work regardless of the type of spring.

Steve A H
meloosifah
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:28 pm
Name:
Aircraft Type:
Occupation-Interests:
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by meloosifah »

For future readers, please note that if you adjust the chains while the tail is raised it will tighten when weight is back on the tail. I had to add a single link on each side when I learned that little gem.
a64pilot
Posts: 319
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:41 pm
Name: Jody
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: A&P former IA, Retired test pilot
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by a64pilot »

I’ve not watched the Video, but compression springs are for larger heavier airplanes. My Maule had them for instance, and I’d expect to see them on 180’s and 185’s, but don’t know that.
The AK 3200 is for bigger heavier airplanes in my opinion, they will work of course, just bigger and heavier than what’s needed
8359
Posts: 229
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:53 pm
Name: Tamer A
Location: KSNA
Aircraft Type: 1946 C120 O-290-D
Occupation-Interests: Engineer
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by 8359 »

a64pilot wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:59 pm I’ve not watched the Video, but compression springs are for larger heavier airplanes. My Maule had them for instance, and I’d expect to see them on 180’s and 185’s, but don’t know that.
The AK 3200 is for bigger heavier airplanes in my opinion, they will work of course, just bigger and heavier than what’s needed
The ABI-3200 I bought brand new was only 1 lb heavier than the maule. But I was very happy with the build quality, it looks much more robust than the maule.
Image
a64pilot
Posts: 319
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:41 pm
Name: Jody
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: A&P former IA, Retired test pilot
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by a64pilot »

8359 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:04 pm
a64pilot wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:59 pm I’ve not watched the Video, but compression springs are for larger heavier airplanes. My Maule had them for instance, and I’d expect to see them on 180’s and 185’s, but don’t know that.
The AK 3200 is for bigger heavier airplanes in my opinion, they will work of course, just bigger and heavier than what’s needed
The ABI-3200 I bought brand new was only 1 lb heavier than the maule. But I was very happy with the build quality, it looks much more robust than the maule.
1lb heavier than the little solid wheel Maule, or the big one Maule puts on their 2500 max gross airplane? Plus even one lb at that arm moves the CG quite a bit
8359
Posts: 229
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:53 pm
Name: Tamer A
Location: KSNA
Aircraft Type: 1946 C120 O-290-D
Occupation-Interests: Engineer
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by 8359 »

a64pilot wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:58 am 1lb heavier than the little solid wheel Maule, or the big one Maule puts on their 2500 max gross airplane? Plus even one lb at that arm moves the CG quite a bit
The pneumatic maule, photo posted in the first post of this thread.
Image
a64pilot
Posts: 319
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:41 pm
Name: Jody
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: A&P former IA, Retired test pilot
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200

Post by a64pilot »

8359 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:28 pm
a64pilot wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:58 am 1lb heavier than the little solid wheel Maule, or the big one Maule puts on their 2500 max gross airplane? Plus even one lb at that arm moves the CG quite a bit
The pneumatic maule, photo posted in the first post of this thread.
I have one of those in the hanger, it came off my Maule M6 with an IO 540 engine, I also have a Scott (Before AK bushwheels bought them out) in the hanger that came on my 140. I put the little Maule SFSA-1-2 I think, 6 lbs. if there is a downside it’s noisy when taxiing on rough pavement. the tail boom on the 140 acts like a megaphone and the solid tire acts like a phonograph needle.
However it’s I think about three lbs lighter and slightly less drag.
Airplanes get fat a little bit at a time, a few lbs h3re or there adds up. It’s why I don’t understand these mods to modernize a 140. 150 seats, mufflers, heavy rail wheels, it all adds up, and if you do a weight and balance it’s surprising how much aft the CG goes if you add three lbs to the tailwheel.
meloosifah
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:28 pm
Name:
Aircraft Type:
Occupation-Interests:
Contact:

Re: Switching to Scott 3200 Tailwheel

Post by meloosifah »

I don’t know - my modernizing has resulted in weight loss. No speaker, alternator, light weight battery, no battery box, 150 exhaust (because the originals are junk), LED lights, circuit breakers.

I am reweighing next week but my rough calculations are that I shed over 20 lbs.

Next will be modern radio and transponder and eliminating the intercom. Thinking I have another 3-5 pounds to lose there. All for increased functionality, reliability and modernization! 😁 I would love to lose the Grimes but it is just too cool to take out.
Post Reply